Nancy Padian’s 10 year study of hiv positives and their seronegative partner showed ZERO transmission of hiv.

Just because doctors scare their patients to death with diagnoses of death, and just because gays stressed and doped themselves to death, and just because starving hopeless people in Africa are stressing and starving themselves to death, does NOT MEAN it has anything to do with the big sex boogeyman of HIV.

All of your ignorance shows HOW RIGHT Elsevier was to put out the so-called “denialist” findings. Only problem is you goons are calling the wrong team denialists. Wanna see the denialists who are living under illusions of the sex boogeyman of death? Go look in the mirror, fools.

You boneheads all bit the big one!!! Hahahahahaaaaa

A traveller came to a farmhouse and offered to make the occupants Nail Soup in return for a night’s shelter. He threw a large nail in a pot of boiling water. But he said -
“A nail cannot completely make Nail Soup unless it is combined with other soup ingredients including onions, carrots, leeks, potatoes, meat and seasonings.”

In the morning he went on his way, refreshed after a night in a comfortable bed, minus the nail, with some gold coins in his pocket and the thanks of the family ringing in his ears for the wonderful nail that made such delicious Nail Soup.

So it will be when mass circumcision has been “rolled out” and if there is any dent at all in HIV transmission.

Circumcision Not Enough to Stop HIV, Experts Warn

Although circumcision has been touted as one of the ways to prevent HIV infection, recent findings show an increase in HIV infection in regions where most males are circumcised.

By ARTHUR OKWEMBA Posted Saturday, September 26 2009

As thousands of young men in Nyanza Province troop to health centres to be circumcised in hopes of fending off HIV, new studies show it might be too early to claim victory. Although circumcision has been touted as one of the ways to prevent HIV infection, recent findings show an increase in HIV infection in regions where most males are circumcised.
According to findings of the Kenya Aids Indicator Survey (Kais) released last week, North Eastern and Coast provinces, where 97 per cent of males are circumcised, registered an increase in HIV prevalence.

In the last 3 weeks there have been two articles in Australian newspapers. One is a reaffirmation of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians saying circumcision of minors is not recommended (inspite of all the “news” out of Africa). The second is about a current Australian legal review as to whether anyone who circumcises a minor, even with parental consent, can be held liable for assualt. This article also reports the circumcison rate has fallen from 70% to two percent today. Examples from other countries could also be cited.

The United States has been on the wrong side of history on this issue. From a jury of our peers, so to speak, 80% of the worlds population says we are wrong, including all of our closest English speaking friends, England, Canada, New Zealand and Australia.

Yet even the United States is changing. Circumcision is down to 30% on the West coast. I feel it is only a matter of time, 20 years maybe, before it is made illegal to modifiy the genitals of a male minor in the United States.

Circumcision is not a vaccine or a haircut or similar in any to all the other myriad choises a parent makes. It is an unethical violation of another human beings right to bodiliy integrity. I was circumcised against my will. I am angry about it. No one had the right to do this to me. I don’t care that other men accept it, maybe even like it. I do not. Emotionally (not in reality, of course) I feel like shooting the butcher who did this to me.

Circumcision on a minor is not a medical proceedure, except in rarest instances. It is true that their can be potential medical benefits down the road, but at the time circumcision is done, on a minor, it is unethical cosmetic modification.

There are major potential medical benefits to both the individual and to society in removing infant female breast buds. The benefits from this proceedure are vastly larger than anything circumcision can give to society. Yet it would be patently unethical to do and offensive to even talk of it. So, to all you circumcision advocates, what exactly is the difference?

There is absolutely no difference. No….there is a difference. In the United States some people have grown so accustomed to male genital reduction, so hardened to it, that they can’t see what they are doing. Yet in both prodeedues you are forceably removing normal, natural body tissue from another person who had every right to keep it. In the end all the “good” intentions and rationalizations of those who remove the tissues mean nothing.

His body, his choice…when he’s eighteen.
Thanks for the opportunity to speak, James

Foreskin feels really good. The foreskin includes over half of a male’s pleasure-receptive nerve endings and about 15 square inches of sensual interface. It protects the glans and mucosa and allows an exquisite frictionless rolling/gliding action during intimacy for him and his partner.

Even a pin-poke to draw a ceremonial drop of blood from a female is an illegal outrage for 94% of the world’s people. How can it be legal to do significant cosmetic genital reductions on boys?

It’s HIS body, and it’s HIS decision.

It is outrageous that there are some obsessing and trying to find a reason to continue this practice. The HIV risk change is minimal and not observed outside Africa. The risk cahnge (alleged to change from from 3.2% risk down to 1.8%) may not exist as the cut men did not have sex during a large part of the study and were told to use condoms. Further, if these med experts were not just promoting the cut and were really into reducing HIV, would they not look at clitoral hood and labia cutting? This is the removal of same tissue and a study showed that HIV rares were so much lower with circumcised females! Any women want to be circumcised to reduce the HIV problem? A condom is still needed for unsafe sex and circumcision raises the risk of women catching HIV (in the same Africa study). Stop advocating mutilation. Just think, when these baby boys grow up, it is likely there will be a contraceptive gel that prevents HIV with certainty — 0% risk. Oh, and we have something now that lowers the risk to zero, and sex with condoms feels so much better with all of the erogenous tissue — the whole penis.

The one study into male-to-female transmission showed a 50% higher rate in the group where the men had been circumcised btw.

ABC (Abstinence, Being faithful, Condoms) is the way forward. Promoting genital surgery will cost African lives, not save them.